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Due to containing zero sources. Walter Young (American football) Kindal Moorehead and Colin Branch. Could someone add at least one source to each? Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 13:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

  • Done all three. There are plenty of former NFL players with no sources though. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 14:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Proposed changes to NGRIDIRON

Please see discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#World Football League. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Should we have to add that someone is reverted back to the practice squad when that happens automatically for elevated players?

Hi everyone. When players are elevated from the practice squad this season that is obviously usually included in a player's article, but should we also include that the player is reverted afterwards when that is what automatically happens unless they are then signed to the active roster or released? I feel as though this lends to some articles turning into an elongated transaction report. Another option is at the end of the season recapping "X was elevated to the Y's active roster for Z games" could clean this up. Also is it necessary to include the rules regarding the transaction (example: Stephen Sullivan (American football) "On October 31, 2020 Sullivan was bumped to active roster without having to sign him to the 53-man roster under a COVID-19 season call-up exemption") within an individual player's article? Best, GPL93 (talk) 16:45, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

@GPL93: I've pretty much been one of the only "regular" editors adding the gameday elevations to articles. Edmond_Robinson#Atlanta_Falcons is probably the most extreme example so far, as he's been called up I believe the most this season, and I think that's about as clean as I can get it while including all the necessary details. In the majority of cases, players are only elevated twice per season (with COVID replacements being the exception), since twice is the limit for standard elevations. I think a simple "he was elevated for the week 5 game and reverted to the practice squad after the game" is fine, but the reversion should be noted because someone who doesn't understand the intricacies of the new rule may assume that player stayed on the active roster for the rest of the season. Explaining why they reverted is a tad excessive IMO and I've removed instances of that from articles. Eagles 24/7 (C) 04:17, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Head Coaches that need their own images

Currently their is five head coaches who don't have a image on their page and it will be a great deal of help for the popflock.com resource NFL project if we can tackle (no pun intended) some of these pages that do not have a image. These are the list of head coaches that need a picture in their infobox.

BigRed606 (talk) 04:53, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

BigRed606, it's really up to photographers putting up photos under a CC/free license, or at least granting us permission to use one of their copyrighted images. Otherwise we can't do much here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Separate categories for renamed franchises

Why do we have separate categories for each iteration of a franchise? Franchises are not reformed every time there is a change of location or name, they're the same organisation. So why do we have, for example, Category:Washington Redskins and Category:Washington Football Team? Category:Houston Oilers and Category:Tennessee Titans? We don't have separate articles for those teams' different iterations, so why split the categories? - PeeJay 12:38, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Baseball players categories exist for teams that move. For instance the Category:Philadelphia Athletics players and the Category:Kansas City Athletics players. Many players, Jim Finigan and Vic Power for just two examples, are categorized as both....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:54, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Right, but that doesn't really answer my question. We may do it for all sorts of things, my question is why do we do it? - PeeJay 13:35, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Because it's kind of logic to have it that way imo. Having Warren Moon for example with the Tennessee Titans category wouldn't make any sense since he never played for that team or even in that city. Didn't really answer your question I guess, but just my opinion.-- Yankees10 16:23, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
No, it's a decent answer, but surely it would make more sense to have a single category for all players who played for the Houston Oilers, the Tennessee Oilers and the Tennessee Titans. They're contracted to the same team, essentially, so why not have a single category? In soccer, we don't have different categories for players who played for Newton Heath LYR and Manchester United, after all. - PeeJay 16:33, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
PeeJay, if we did that then the category name would have to reflect every single name they have ever been known by. Just listing it by the current name seems wrong, like Yankees said. Unless you can think of another solution, then Washington's would be Boston Braves / Boston Redskins / Washington Redskins / Washington Football Team players, which is obviously too bloated (not to mention we'd have to add to it if they reveal another name in the next year or so). ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:30, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure that's the case. Like I said, soccer players who only ever played for Newton Heath are all in Category:Manchester United F.C. players, so why would the NFL team categories need to have all the different names in? - PeeJay 22:15, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

What are you proposing? Are you suggesting that a) Earl Campbell be listed in the Tennessee Titans category (College football does this example) b) former team names be categorized within the current team name categories, or something different?-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Option A. Anything relating to former names of the franchise should be contained within a category with the current name, and the categories with the former name should be deleted. - PeeJay 01:21, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
But we do have a separate page for Houston Oilers so that is why Category:Houston Oilers exists. Placing a player in the category of the team he did not play for would be nonsense. - Sabbatino (talk) 07:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
You do realise that link is a redirect, right? So we don't have a separate page for the Houston Oilers. I'm not suggesting anyone be categorised as playing for a team they didn't actually play for, my point is that - to all intents and purposes - the Houston Oilers, the Tennessee Oilers and the Tennessee Titans are the same team, just with three different names. A player who played for the Titans and a player who played for the Oilers effectively played for the same team. - PeeJay 08:28, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
The "History of ..." is a technicality. For whatever reason, this project names it that instead of just using the former team name like Montreal Expos (baseball) or Buffalo Braves (basketball).--Bagumba (talk) 08:51, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

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