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-Ad Orientem (talk) 02:08, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Responsorial psalmody

I have just drafted Draft:Responsorial psalmody. Assistance would be welcome in preparing it as a full article. Note that there is a long-standing redirect (link) page Responsorial Psalm but this only goes to a small, denominational-specific subsection within the overall Psalm page. This new article is intended to be a fuller, more general and non-denominational description, and I propose that the pre-existing link then be redirected to it with associated tweaks to the original target of that link. (History: I am also the originator of the Gelineau psalmody page.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

This is now in place at Responsorial psalmody. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:27, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Three related Articles for Deletion

There are three AfDs on topics that editors here may be interested in: popflock.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Methodist Churches in Leicester, popflock.com Resource: Articles for deletion/List of Baptist churches in Leicester, and popflock.com Resource: Articles for deletion/Congregational Churches in Leicester. -- MarkH21talk 20:46, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Lyon College Article Improvements

Hi, my name is Keli and I'm an employee of Lyon College. When I started working for the college last year, I saw this article was missing information and was flagged about the need for additional citations. I've been working on a new draft to improve the page and add the necessary citations.

You can see my entire post with details about my draft here, on the Lyon College talk page.

I've requested editor assistance at WikiProject Universities and WikiProject Arkansas but have not yet received a response. Since the college is affiliated with the Christian religion, I hope someone at this WikiProject will have an interest in working on the article to make fair changes. You can find my full draft here. Can someone please take a look and offer any feedback, or if you agree that it significantly improves the article, copy my version over?

Since I am employed by the college and here in that official capacity, I will only post on designated talk pages and I will not directly edit the Lyon College article or related articles where I may have a conflict of interest. Please do not hesitate to leave me a message if you have questions or feedback. Thanks! LyonCollegeKeli (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done by User:Danielklotz. TSventon (talk) 13:01, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Citation of Richard Carrier at Historicity of Jesus

This discussion on whether or not it is appropriate to cite the fringe figure Richard Carrier to establish that there are problem with methods used in persuing the historical Jesus at Historicity of Jesus may be of interest to the project: Talk:Historicity of Jesus#Richard Carrier --Ermenrich (talk) 16:52, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion of interest at Tacitus on Christ

There is a discussion of interest to this project on rewriting the section historical value at Talk:Tacitus on Christ#Authenticity and historical value.--Ermenrich (talk) 23:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Sovereignty of God in Christianity

Can some editors cleanup this article? It was determined at AfD that this is a significant topic, but this article needs a lot of work. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

List of suppressed parishes in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany

Hi, would anyone be interested in improving this article by adding more sources?, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 18:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Request for comments on the Turin Shroud

Some users do not want to include a reliable source published last year in an Oxford journal, showing that the issue of the carbon dating of the shroud of Turin is not at all settled. I have introduced a Request for comments on the talk page. Thank you. Frezase (talk) 19:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Don't get your hopes too high, they know damn well they haven't refuted the Medieval age of the shroud, they just moved it some decades away. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
This user does not even try to explain why the Oxford article should not be included!... The question is not "should we move the age some decades away" but "are the results still valid?" as well explained in Phys.org. The researchers "claimed that the raw data from the 1988 tests showed that the test samples were heterogeneous, invalidating the results." see here. Frezase (talk) 20:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
WP:EXTRAORDINARY. Also reading scientific papers requires WP:COMPETENCE, sometimes quote mining can be quite misleading: their statistical analysis does not match the claims they made. Tgeorgescu (talk) 20:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

(Self-deleted a slightly earlier comment as I want to change). Frezase, I believe it is tendentious to say that this study invalidates the medieval dating of the shroud. It's also far too long. If this paper is to be mentioned at all, it should be along the lines that "a 2019 analysis of the raw data confirmed a medieval origin while questioning the exact range of dates"Achar Sva (talk) 00:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Yup, a dating between the Great Schism and Martin Luther is consistent with their statistics. popflock.com resource is not against religious belief, it is against the misuse of science. Tgeorgescu (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
Still 0 reason not to mention the study in the article, and no reason to rely on the dubious reinterpretation of non specialized users, self professed atheists. According to real experts, published in respected peer reviewed journal, this study casts "serious doubts on the reliability of the 1988 dating of the Turin Shroud". Bruni et al., Radiation Physics and Chemistry, 2020 Frezase (talk) 18:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
First, the authors have an axe to grind against the Medieval origin. It would be ludicrous to deny that, their POV is known for decades. Second, their statistics do not refute a post-Great Schism origin of the shroud. Third, we have WP:RULES like WP:FRINGE and WP:EXTRAORDINARY, we do not render everything that is published with peer-review, especially for fringe topics. Fourth, if people want to believe, why do they need scientific proof? Science can only refute their religious beliefs, it can never prove those. E.g. the shroud does not have half non-human DNA in its human genome (were it preserved). Fifth, musings about atheist editors fail WP:NPA. Tgeorgescu (talk) 19:21, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

St. Francis of Assisi in Andean mythology

During discussions of Coropuna, the question was raised about whether the content currently in that article that refers to St. Francis of Assisi is accurate. Does anyone editing this page have the expertise to judge? Please reply at Talk:Coropuna if possible. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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Hello,
Please note that Religious text, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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Discussion at Bart D. Ehrman

There is currently a discussion at the above article that may be relevant to the subject of this project. Interested editors are invited to join the discussion here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Abune Mathias#Requested move 21 February 2020

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Abune Mathias#Requested move 21 February 2020. Elizium23 (talk) 05:32, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Infobox merge proposal

There is a suggestion to merge the templates for the "clergy" and "Christian leader" infoboxes. To know more or take part, go to popflock.com Resource: Templates_for_discussion/Log/2020_March_19#Template:Infobox_clergy. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 23:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC)


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