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Standalone article on Class A?
There are currently standalone articles on Triple-A (baseball) and Double-A (baseball)--thoughts on whether there would be benefit in creating/splitting-out a Class A (Single-A) article? I ask because Class A (baseball) currently redirects readers into the Minor League Baseball section on Low-A, which is a very recent embodiment of a classification that has existed for over 100 years. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 03:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- My own gut feeling is that a stand-alone article is probably warranted, though truthfully I'm not sure the existing articles on AAA and AA are particularly good models for what we'd want those sorts of articles to be. Seems there's a strong bias towards recent/current structures rather than a more historical look. I wonder what kind of historical coverage the various levels have from other secondary/tertiary sources ... Go Phightins! 12:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
I agree that a stand-alone is warranted, great idea. Class A in the "old" classification structure was the highest minor league level, what AAA is now. Then, add in that the "new" Class A divided into Low-A and High-A and there a lot of benefits to a page explaining Class A. The minor league classifications all have interesting history and with currently changing terminology and league designs, it is a good time to have the information available. It would be greatly beneficial to baseball readers to have a Class A page. Skilgis1900 (talk) 18:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback. I will find time to work on it this week. History will likely be thin at first (as is the case for the current Triple-A and Double-A articles) but hopefully can be expanded over time. My go-to source for minor league information continues to be The Encyclopedia of Minor League Baseball (3rd edition), which will definitely be helpful for this effort. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Baseball card PRODs
I just noticed that there are a lot of baseball card articles that have been PROD'd and are due to be deleted during the next 24 hours. You can see them at Category:Proposed deletion as of 22 March 2021. I know that baseball cards are not central to baseball, the sport, but I thought editors here might have an opinion about whether these articles should be saved. If "yes", remove the PROD, if they are unnecessary articles, just leave them be. Liz Read! Talk! 04:48, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
There is a discussion on SSN (sport specific guidelines) at RFC on Notability (sports) policy and reliability issues. Feel free to go there and post your comments. Cassiopeia(talk) 00:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Is anyone here (other than me) having trouble accessing MLB box scores at the gd2.mlb.com site? For example this link gives me an error "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below." I went back and tried links on that site from 2020 and am getting the same error (they used to work fine). Suggestions welcome. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
I have the same error on the link.Skilgis1900 (talk) 23:24, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- What is this gd2 link anyway? Why can't you just use the regular mlb.com box scores? Spanneraol (talk) 23:32, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know the origin of it, but it's been used on Boston Red Sox season articles since at least the 2013 edition (and all of those pre-existing links no longer work). When it worked, it displayed a concise single-page box score. Yep, for this season I'll change it. Dmoore5556 (talk) 23:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Proposed change in sports notability policy
A proposal is pending that would prohibit the creation of sports biographies unless supported by "substantial coverage in at least one non-routine source". In other words, articles supported solely by statistical databases would not be permitted, and at least one example of WP:SIGCOV would be required to be included before an article could be created. If you have views on this proposal, one way or the other, you can express those views at Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#Fram's revised proposal. Cbl62 (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Baseball Hall of Fame photos
Hey, this might be a question thats been answered before, but I was curious whether anyone ever approached the Baseball Hall of Fame for explicit permission to use their photos. It would seem to further their mission, and I hate seeing guys like Moe Berg only depicted with a baseball card photo because every photo has been gobbled up by the evil rights hoarders over at Getty images. I'd be willing to reach out to them if it hasn't already been tried. Abovfold (talk) 20:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'd suggest reviewing popflock.com Resource: Donating copyrighted materials, if you've not already done so. As noted there: "Wikipedia does not accept material that claims 'this can be used in Wikipedia, but not anywhere else or in derivative works.'" Thus, the ask to HOF would need to be that they grant CC-BY-SA licensing on images, which (I suspect) isn't something they'd be inclined to agree to. I guess it doesn't hurt to ask, but the ask would need to be properly formed to yield a successful outcome. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
List articles for teams with a single no hitter.
Now that the Padres finally have their first no-hitter, someone finally created a page for it. However, according to a prior discussion at popflock.com Resource: Articles for deletion/List of Tampa Bay Rays no-hitters, a list of one item was deemed not worthy of a stand-alone article.
Your thoughts are appreciated at popflock.com Resource: Articles for deletion/List of San Diego Padres no-hitters (2nd nomination).
- As the Mike Soroka article has been improved, may I un-stub it?
- I am having an RfD on the redirect page Soroka because I personally think that Mike is the surname's primary topic. Feel free to comment there, even if you think Mike is not the primary topic.
Thank you, DePlume (talk) 04:33, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's a pretty clear de-stub. Hog Farm Talk 04:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- Where do you think that the M.S. and Max Fried articles could go? Is it good enough for GA? If not, what is lacking? NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 18:15, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- NotReallySoroka, Both probably need a little bit of summary style filling out to get to the GA level. You might have a look at some recent starting pitchers who have gotten to GA such as Aaron Nola and Zach Eflin for two potential models. Go Phightins! 18:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Go Phightins! "Summary style filling out" = ? Thank you, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- NotReallySoroka, Sorry, they have a lot of information strung together, but are not necessarily written in summary style and could benefit from incorporating any more contextual media coverage (e.g., feature articles, end-of-season reviews, etc.), I think. Also, personal life / early life could potentially be expanded a bit. Go Phightins! 19:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Go Phightins! I have tried expanding the early life section using existing sources. Someone who is NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Keep in mind MOS:NUMERAL. I see single digit numbers in digit form, while "60" is spelled out. Also, update for 2021 (starting the year on the injured list). – Muboshgu (talk) 19:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Muboshgu I will think about his '21 season later. For now, I have changed the numerals, but please see html comments on the Soroka page for some problems of mine. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Don't forget the talk page ratings when you uprate an article. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- I have made some changes. Please take a look, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 00:59, 17 April 2021 (UTC)