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Related ethnic groups

other Germanic peoples - understandable

but Czechs, French, etc.? Germans are related to half of Europe, I'm not denying that. But if so, why not include the Turks, Russians, Italians, or even Chinese because I'm pretty sure there is a German woman who fucked with a Chinese and gave birth to a child that now perceives itself as German in Germany? Therefore, my suggestion is to keep it simple.Ernio48 (talk) 10:56, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

The whole thing about ethnic Germans is nationalistic nonsense.

Germans are Germans due to the culture and language they speak or due to citizenship. There are no genes or something that can be used to differentiate "Germans" from the French, the Danish, Austrian, or Polish. If you look at the "sources" cited then it is readily apparent that they do not make any claim that Germans are an ethnic group. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:D2:970E:8577:7164:FEA1:539F:37DE (talk) 10:58, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Ethnicity is a cultural marker, not a genetic one. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

I am inclined to agree. They who collectively identify by a specific demonym make up the nation. To that end, no nation's article needs to list related groups but they tend do so based on a narrow principle which is that a proto-group will have once existed, and the spread and prominence of this nation will be such that it absorbed others (assimilated them). So by declaring oneself German, even if both his parents declared Turkish and he has a darker complexion, it gets recorded in censa and this person adopts the German history over that which he leaves behind, and like this he moves forward. In reality it seldom happens so abruptly. Normally a fully integrated society member will have children with an outsider, and the outsider's culture is abandoned thus clearing the way forward. But the issues some of us have had in the past have been the conflation of listing related ethnic groups from the pool of modern-day nations descending from the ancestor race, but also unrelated ethnic groups with whom a nation has heavily mixed (which effectively means everyone is related to everyone). It is for the assimilation reason that I myself stick only to the groups descending from the ancestor. However, I favour a change to the current arrangement also. Either we should change "related" to "associated" so to add neighbours and traditional ethnic groups with whom a nation has mixed; or we should remove the section altogether and let the article speak for itself. Thanks for the points. --Juicy Oranges (talk) 17:17, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

German Australians

I think there are technically more Australians of German descent than there are Brazilians, although I can't find immediately find a source on that. Sure, Brazil is the bigger of the two countries but I recall reading that more Germans migrated to Australia with the promise of free land and economic opportunities than Brazil, and that their government really pushed to bring Germans down under. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:55, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

lol gisele bundchen the most world supermodel is a german from brazil in brazil have other famous germans in tv ana hickman vera fisher xuxa meneghel etc the white people in australia have origin in the islands of great britain but in south brazil the whites have other origins north italians germans and slavs much more diverse than australia in the southern hemisphere and the center-south planet -- Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:17, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

the second most oktoberfest in all world outside of germany is from brazil in blumenau no in usa or australia and usa have much more germans than brazil and australia -- Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:20, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

Germany-Germans in Switzerland

300'000 german live in Switzerland In der Schweiz leben offiziel 300.000 Deutsche jedoch sind die Deutschen mit Schweizer Pass und die Grenzgänger nicht in der Statistik berücksichtig, dann wären es ca. 500.000. "Officially 300,000 Germans live in Switzerland However, the Germans with Swiss passport and the frontier workers are not included in the statistics, then it would be about 500,000." -- Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:20, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Australian German

Can someone add Australia to the reign s with significat populations? There are 898,674 by decent according to the German Australian page which is significantly more than other countries listed there. Thanks -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4046:6100:474:AB37:D4E3:3005 (talk) 21:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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