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Dark Lotus

Dark Lotus
OriginDetroit, Michigan, United States
GenresHip hop, horrorcore
LabelsPsychopathic Records (1998-2017)
Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Psychopathic Rydas, Drive-By, Triple Threat
Violent J
Shaggy 2 Dope
Jamie Madrox
Monoxide Child
Blaze Ya Dead Homie
Anybody Killa

Dark Lotus was an American hip hop group based in Detroit, Michigan. Formed in 1998, the group mainly consisted of Insane Clown Posse (Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J), Blaze Ya Dead Homie, and Twiztid (Jamie Madrox and Monoxide Child).


Initially in 1998, Dark Lotus was announced as a supergroup of artists that were currently signed to Psychopathic Records. In addition to the official hotline, it was also publicly announced in an exclusive interview with Alternative Press. The original members were Insane Clown Posse (Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J), Twiztid (Jamie Madrox and Monoxide Child), and Myzery. The idea stemmed from the 5 artists recording the collaboration song "Meat Cleaver" on Twiztid's 1998 debut album Mostasteless. After Myzery distanced himself from Psychopathic Records, the remaining 4 members made its official Dark Lotus debut with the single "Echoside"[1] which was originally intended for the group's debut, but released on Insane Clown Posse's 1999 album The Amazing Jeckel Brothers instead, because the Dark Lotus album's production took longer than expected.[1]

The group attempted to add Esham as the official 5th member, with various interviews confirming his inclusion. In the demo version of the song "Whut?" from Insane Clown Posse's album Bizaar, Esham mentions in the lyrics joining the supergroup; however, he was replaced by Twiztid in the final version, and ultimately did not stay in the group.[2] It was then announced that Blaze Ya Dead Homie would become the official 5th member of Dark Lotus. It was later announced that each member "would act as a 'petal' of the lotus,"[3] and that there would be six members. Another attempt at a new member came about with professional wrestler Vampiro. Both Blaze Ya Dead Homie and Vampiro appeared on the track "Maniac Killa" off of Twiztid's second album Freek Show, along with Insane Clown Posse.[4] The track was credited to Dark Lotus. The following year, it was announced that Marz would be a member, thus replacing Vampiro, and cementing himself as the 6th member.[3]

Dark Lotus released their first album, Tales from the Lotus Pod, in 2001. Mike E. Clark was brought in to produce the album, but left the project after producing four songs. Twiztid, Fritz the Cat, and Mike P of Zug Izland finished the remainder of the album.[5] The album peaked at #1 on the Billboard Heatseekers chart, #6 on the Top Independent Albums chart, and #158 on the Billboard 200.[6] Later in the year, Marz left the group, and was replaced by Anybody Killa.

In 2002, Tales from the Lotus Pod was reissued in a new version removing Marz's vocals.[7] On April 6, 2004, Dark Lotus released their second studio album, Black Rain. It peaked at #3 on the Top Independent Albums chart, and at #71 on the Billboard 200.[6]

Afterwards, Anybody Killa left the group, and a third album, The Opaque Brotherhood, on April 15, 2008 was released without him.[3][8] It peaked at #4 on the Top Independent Albums chart, #23 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, #45 on the Top Internet Albums chart, and #45 on the Billboard 200.[6]Allrovi reviewer Stewart Mason praised the album, writing "Nothing on The Opaque Brotherhood will convince anyone who isn't already a fan, but the tormented lyrics and matter-of-fact delivery remove a layer or two of distance and artifice from the band's familiar themes, and make them that much more disturbing as a result."[9] Twiztid left Psychopathic Records on December 13, 2012,[10] but according to Violent J, Dark Lotus had not broken up and would continue to release music on Psychopathic Records as time permits.[11]

It was announced on February 18, 2014 that all 5 members of Dark Lotus were in the studio together recording a new album. This would have been the group's first album since 2008's The Opaque Brotherhood. It was released at the 15th annual Gathering of the Juggalos, entitled The Mud, Water, Air & Blood. The album peaked #43 on the Billboard 200, the group's highest number to date. Former member Anybody Killa was a guest feature on the track "Villainous", thus bringing the 6 artists together again.

At the 2016 Gathering of the Juggalos, during Insane Clown Posse's seminar, it was announced that at the 2017 Juggalo Day Show Dark Lotus would perform Tales From the Lotus Pod in its entirety. On January 19, 2017 via an interview with Faygoluvers, Insane Clown Posse announced that it is cutting ties with Twiztid and Majik Ninja Entertainment, and that all artists from Majik Ninja Entertainment were removed from the 2017 Juggalo Day Show and that a new lineup would be announced soon.[12]

On July 21, 2018 at the 2018 Gathering of the Juggalos, Violent J announced at the Insane Clown Posse seminar that "We will never reunite with Twiztid. Ever." They also stated that Dark Lotus will not continue and that there won't be any disses towards them.[13] These statements, along with various other factors involving both Insane Clown Posse and Twiztid, confirmed the end of the supergroup.

Music and lyrics

Kimberly Chun of the San Francisco Chronicle described Dark Lotus' musical style as a mixture of "dub, goth, metal, shock rock and hip-hop, with a WWF announcer's delivery and shuffling stoner beats thrown in for good measure."[14] Much of Dark Lotus' lyrics revolve around the occult.[3]


Studio albums

List of studio albums, with selected chart positions
Title Album details Peak chart positions
US Rap
US Indie
US Heat.
US Taste
Tales from the Lotus Pod 158 -- -- 6 1 --
Black Rain 71 -- -- 3 -- --
The Opaque Brotherhood 45 23 7 4 -- 15
The Mud, Water, Air & Blood 43 8 4 4 -- --
"--" denotes releases that did not chart, or was not released in that country.


  1. ^ a b Bruce, Joseph; Echlin, Hobey (August 2003). "Complete Discography". In Nathan Fostey (ed.). ICP: Behind the Paint (2nd ed.). Royal Oak, Michigan: Psychopathic Records. pp. 560-561. ISBN 0-9741846-0-8.
  2. ^ "Unreleased Underground (selection of rare and unreleased songs)- Faygoluvers". www.faygoluvers.net.
  3. ^ a b c d "Dark Lotus > Biography". Allrovi. Retrieved 2008.
  4. ^ "Freek Show album credits-Discogs". www.discogs.com.
  5. ^ Bruce, Joseph; Echlin, Hobey (August 2003). "Hatchet Rising". In Nathan Fostey (ed.). ICP: Behind the Paint (2nd ed.). Royal Oak, Michigan: Psychopathic Records. pp. 470-496. ISBN 0-9741846-0-8.
  6. ^ a b c "Charts and awards for Dark Lotus". Allrovi. Retrieved 2008.
  7. ^ D'Angelo, Joe (September 25, 2001). "Insane Clown Posse Axed By Label, Launching Tour". MTV News. Retrieved 2008.
  8. ^ Bonaventura, Andrea (October 25, 2006). "The Calm Before the Storm". Real Detroit Weekly. Retrieved 2008.
  9. ^ Mason, Stewart. "Review of The Opaque Brotherhood". Allrovi. Retrieved 2009.
  10. ^ "Twiztid (@tweetmesohard) - Twitter". twitter.com.
  11. ^ "ICP - The Insane Clown Posse". www.insaneclownposse.com.
  12. ^ "ICP Announces that Twiztid/MNE will not be at Juggalo Day or the Gathering; Twiztid Shop VIP News - Faygoluvers". www.faygoluvers.net.
  13. ^ "Notes from the 2018 Insane Clown Posse Gathering Seminar - Faygoluvers". faygoluvers.net.
  14. ^ Chun, Kimberly (October 10, 2001). "Hip-hop on pop at Insane Clown Posse plus Paula West and Basement Jaxx". San Francisco Chronicle. Retrieved 2008.
  15. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Billboard 200)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.
  16. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.
  17. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Top Rap Albums)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.
  18. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Independent Albums)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.
  19. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Heatseekers Albums)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.
  20. ^ "Dark Lotus Chart History (Tastemakers)". Billboard. Retrieved 2019.

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